A single time my girlfriend picked him up and experimented with bringing him into the house, not a good idea as he was wanting to leap by shut windows and meowing super loud. They are 10 years old..The 2 big males are mad I've Gracie and refuse to come in https://tortoiseandthehare90011.blog4youth.com/34494078/tortoise-media-things-to-know-before-you-buy